Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Smoke-free bars on way, but not fast enough for some
smh.com.au ^ | 29 October 2002 | Geesche Jacobsen

Posted on 10/28/2002 5:53:44 PM PST by SheLion

Pubs and clubs with more than one bar will be encouraged to make at least one of them smoke-free from as early as January.

Under proposals on passive smoking which are now being finalized, all bars will be
"predominantly smoke-free" by 2005.

The Herald has obtained a copy of the draft agreement between the Government, publicans, clubs, the casino, and workers on the extension of the smoking bans in public buildings and restaurants to licensed premises.

But under the draft agreement, operators reserve a right to change the details if the smoke bans adversely affect their business within six months of their introduction.

Anti-smoking advocates say the agreement does not go far enough and the Government should act more quickly.

The agreement states:

Smoke-free areas are to be set up in all bars, and smoking banned at all counter areas from July.

Venues with more than one bar are encouraged to make one bar smoke-free as early as January, and this will be compulsory for venues with multiple bars (and encouraged in other areas such as gaming rooms) from July 2004.

All licensed premises to be "predominantly smoke-free" by 2005. (What this means is still to be negotiated.)

But legislation will be introduced only six months after the deadlines so the impact of the bans on the business can be assessed.

"The outcomes of [compliance] monitoring will be factored into legislation in order to take account of unforeseen impacts, eg. if businesses are being put at risk then this would have to be accommodated and reflected in legislation," the draft agreement says.

But the chief executive of Action on Smoking and Health, Anne Jones, says studies had shown smoking bans were good for business.

A spokesman for the Health Minister, Craig Knowles, said the Government did not want to pre-empt the outcome of discussions.

"We are awaiting a final presentation that is agreeable to all the parties," he said.

Democrat upper house MP Arthur Chesterfield-Evans said every two days as many people died from smoking-related illness as were missing or killed in the bombings in Bali.

A smoking ban in entertainment venues such as pubs helped people cut their cigarette consumption and made it easier for them to quit smoking.

"It has a big benefit on public health," he said.

But the first warning that smoking caused lung cancer was published 52 years ago and action was overdue, he said. "A 50-year phase in ought to have been enough," he said. "It's a complete farce."

This story was found at:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002

 


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last
Democrat upper house MP Arthur Chesterfield-Evans said every two days as many people died from smoking-related illness as were missing or killed in the bombings in Bali.

Where DO they get these numbers?!!!!

1 posted on 10/28/2002 5:53:44 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SheLion
I'm just trying to find a drink-free smoking room.
2 posted on 10/28/2002 5:54:49 PM PST by SamAdams76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; maxwell; ...
PUFF
3 posted on 10/28/2002 5:55:00 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76
I'm just trying to find a drink-free smoking room.


4 posted on 10/28/2002 5:56:37 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76
I am looking for an idiot-free drinking and smoking room! LOL
5 posted on 10/28/2002 6:16:42 PM PST by buffyt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: buffyt
I saw one of those once, but then I visited and it changed everything...:-(
6 posted on 10/28/2002 6:21:06 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: buffyt
I am looking for an idiot-free drinking and smoking room! LOL

ME, TOO!!!!

7 posted on 10/28/2002 6:21:36 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76
How many people here smoke only in a bar? Get a little loose and want a cigarette? Not to mention those who exist on them (bad english, incomplete sentence but I don't care).
8 posted on 10/28/2002 6:34:43 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SheLion
Is it just me? Or does banning smoking in bars seem as out of place as banning fornicating in cathouses?
9 posted on 10/28/2002 6:45:23 PM PST by Vigilanteman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Not to mention those who exist on them (bad english, incomplete sentence but I don't care).

I don't "exist" on them, but I do love my coffee and cigarettes!


10 posted on 10/28/2002 7:08:53 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
Is it just me? Or does banning smoking in bars seem as out of place as banning fornicating in cathouses?

Cathouses are illegal. Except in Nevada.

11 posted on 10/28/2002 7:20:04 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SheLion
The simple fact that we are actually seeing smokeless bars is hard to believe and demonstrates how real the problem is. Very good find. A definite read for all smokers.
12 posted on 10/28/2002 7:28:40 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Very good find. A definite read for all smokers.

A buddy found it for me. I owe my thanks to him! :)

And your right. This is really good reading. I just wish it would end and the anti's would dry up and blow away.

13 posted on 10/28/2002 7:33:25 PM PST by SheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: JoeSixPack1
LOL!
14 posted on 10/28/2002 7:36:05 PM PST by metesky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: metesky
Thanks!! I was beginning to think nobody got it! :-)
15 posted on 10/28/2002 8:39:20 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The only time I smoke is in a bar. These assholes are going to destroy ANOTHER industry. Pub/tavern owners will go out of business, which will have a tremendous affect on the beverage industry. Why can't people just shut the F-up, stay home with their bottled water, and mind their own business?
16 posted on 10/28/2002 9:04:33 PM PST by Cobra64
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
Is it just me? Or does banning smoking in bars seem as out of place as banning fornicating in cathouses?

Or eating apple pie in a diner.

17 posted on 10/28/2002 9:06:02 PM PST by Cobra64
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SheLion
Here in CA they are all smoke free bars. I guess the trend is moving across the country.
Granted I love breathing clean air in restraunts and all, but I don't understand why there can't be also accomodation for smokers in some way.
18 posted on 10/28/2002 9:08:22 PM PST by A CA Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SheLion
Where DO they get these numbers?!!!!

From the same hat they pull out the rabbit.

19 posted on 10/28/2002 9:12:41 PM PST by Gabz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gabz
Where DO they get these numbers?!!!!

From the same hat they pull out the rabbit.

I thought it was from somewhere else that the sun don't shine that they PUSHED something else from. ;^) (They pull them out of their a__.)

20 posted on 10/29/2002 6:09:17 AM PST by Just another Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson